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[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 56 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In 1000 years scientists will find the paint residue and people will appreciate it as an interesting historical fact that Stonehenge was once vandalized by a psyop meant to hurt climate change organizing

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"Despite our image of Stonehenge as a grey, austere structure, during the late Tupperware/Wrapper Culture at the LTBIIIb-c boundary, local religious cults donned black masks and dyed it a brilliant orange while conducting their rites."

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[–] robinnn@hexbear.net 46 points 4 months ago (1 children)

MY TREATS MY TREATS THERE’S ORANGE PAINT ON MY TREATS THEY’RE RUINED

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 34 points 4 months ago

i-spil-my-jice That's just my jice wich i spil

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 45 points 4 months ago (5 children)
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[–] Delphinium@hexbear.net 41 points 4 months ago (3 children)

But the fucking rocks are still there just look at them mission accomplished

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago

Fr just look at them from a different angle

[–] a_little_red_rat@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

I mean shit, if I was touristing and needed a treat selfie, how much cooler is getting one when Something (minor) Happened, rather than the old boring rocks that everybody has?

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[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago (3 children)

even if Just Stop Oil isn't a "psy op" loaded to the gills with agents provocateurs taking money from an oil heiress and is completely sincere activism, it's fundamentally a reformist organization engaged in theatrics. You aren't going to mitigate the damage of climate change, let alone end it, within the confines of ongoing capitalism.

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[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I don’t think vandalizing an archaeological site is going to suddenly change Big Oil’s mind. If you want to take down Big Oil, direct action against it is a good place to start. These rich kids just put an unnecessary burden on the working class people who now have to clean up their mess. This self-indulgent shit pisses me off.

[–] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

These protests do work. And is suspected to be largely behind why a fair fraction of the population care about climate change. And working class people will be pressed into cleaning up the mess of direct action too, so I don't understand the argument there.

Fucking up rich people's pretty shit is a perfectly valid, if somewhat toothless, response. Yes, direct action is better, but is also more heavily violently cracked down on, the mass movement needed to make it viable isn't there.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think the heatwaves and floods and winters without snow are why a fair fraction of the population cares about climate change.

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[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

These protests do work. And is suspected to be largely behind why a fair fraction of the population care about climate change.

This claim lacks evidence.

And working class people will be pressed into cleaning up the mess of direct action too, so I don’t understand the argument there.

It's one thing to create unnecessary burdens for working class people by doing some self-indulgent shit, but quite another to do so when you're actively fighting for the future of the entire working class. And no, rich kids who vandalize historical sites and works of art aren't doing that.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

These rich kids just put an unnecessary burden on the working class people who now have to clean up their mess

So you're saying these protests create jobs?

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[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It’s not going to change big oil’s mind. Nothing short of torturing executives and hanging their bodies off a bridge will change their minds. But at least this makes people mad which is the next best thing.

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[–] ndondo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The revolution won't be televised. Direct action is largely toothless. Iirc somebody lit themselves on fire to protest climate change and it was barely reported on. But somebody puts paint on the Stonehenge or even mildly inconveniences the public and it draws attention via outrage for a while. Literally all a protest is trying to do is draw attention to an issue. And this is one of the only methods I've seen that still works. Srsly why bother with direct action when it won't achieve anything

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That's because lighting yourself on fire is counterproductive and doesn't work. Direct action is fundamentally mass action and the action of groups, not individuals.

Strikes are a prime example of direct action. It's also important that workflow is disrupted. Other forms of protest are nil, really.

[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Strikes, sabotage, political assassination, anything is better than this kind of protest, which only succeeds in turning people against the cause and giving the protesters a self-indulgent sense that they have done their part.

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[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Direct action is largely toothless

What

Iirc somebody lit themselves on fire to protest climate change and it was barely reported on.

That's a public display of total despair, not direct action against the responsible group.

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[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago

The waiting for two years or the spontaneous decision to visit, the principal contradiction of our time

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If memory serves they used something water soluble, didn’t they?

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I feel like Just Stop Oil's whole thing is doing something completely harmless that still gets idiots mad so yeah.

[–] WELCOMETHRILLHO@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago

People are too focused on the washable paint, not focused enough on climate change, and even less focused on the underground base beneath Stone Henge where Dr. Andonuts and Apple Kid are being held hostage.

[–] Yor@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

this person only found out about Stonehenge two years ago?

[–] Denvil@lemmy.one 10 points 4 months ago

Maybe, but you can't conclude that from the sentence at all? It simply says it's a place they've wanted to go to for 2 years. I know about Stonehenge, but haven't really thought "Y'know, I want to go visit that," but maybe that'll change.

[–] xkyfal18@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 4 months ago

just stop oil is 100% a psyop wtf

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

The most hilarious part of this whole thing is the Daily Mail having to reluctantly pretend to be on the side of the neo-pagans they usually consider hippy parasites because they were mad it interfered with summer solstice.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

now i want to pressure wash it

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago (4 children)

What's with people saying this is a psyop?

[–] Packet@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

As far as I know from my memory, it is organized by a bunch of rich kids and also the org gets its money from oil excs, shady stuff in general from their organizing

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

it isn't funded by oil execs 🤦‍♂️ don't just say random shit from memory

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

"Saying random shit from memory" seems to be a recurring problem with Hexbear.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

It came to me in a dream

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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's funded by Aileen Getty, whose dad owned Getty Oil (which was bought by Pennzoil who was bought by Shell).

I don't believe she's doing a psyop, just a lib doing what libs do.

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[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The people calling it a psyop are?

[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

every form of lib activism can be called a psyop since they can all be ridiculed by the media. and some actual based forms of activism can be shown to randoms and they will :chud-rage: anyway

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

Can you go into this in more detail?

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[–] chungusamonugs@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

For one of the parasite in chief with idiot hat's many useless celebrations they projected a whole bunch of royal worshipping propaganda onto Stonehenge, so as far as I'm concerned this is far less offensive than that.

[–] EatPotatoes@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

Misdirected anger is one hell of a opiate

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