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Ireland, Wales, Cornwall and Scotland should be granted full independence and England should be divided up in several smaller countries all under a peacekeeping force.

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[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 57 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Just looking back on various photos and clips of life in the UK throughout the 20th century and god... what a wasteland of the soul.

A land of utterly miserable conformist dregs, living just to drink and smoke and drive cars along grey congested roads through grey congested towns under a grey congested sky. A land of boiled vegetables and beige plastic and black mold crawling up the ugly, ugly wallpaper. A land of paedophiles with knighthoods hosting charity TV specials to fight child poverty (now celebrating its Xth decade - still fighting child poverty). A land of prestige motor vehicles driven by ashen-faced, flabby-cheeked home county men who build model spitfires and write lists of names for fascist governments. A land of simpering desperation to join, that is, fuck your way into, the nobility - endless, breathless news rags and radio programs and television shows obsessed over and obsequious to the persons and paraphernalia of a class of horrid scum that any civilized society would have publically and brutally executed a long time ago. And all of it saturated in the smug, smirking, self-satisfied, delusional afterglow of the Empire, as if reflecting on its deeds should bring a twinkly-eyed smile to one's lips rather than a projectile spray of vomit - and all of it powered by not one single iota of """British""" muscle, but rather a ceaseless, thundering waterfall of blood and sweat from the third world. It sickens me.

God, it SICKENS ME, and there's so much more I can add to my LITANY OF HATE but for my own sake I'm going to stop. What an awful, awful, horrible place and time to have lived in and what awful, horrible people to have lived amongst - and this was supposed to be better than Soviet socialism? This was the "free world"? Disgusting.

[–] AmericaHaterSexHaver@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oi mate youve got a loicense for that there hate

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[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

This is some real poetry.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 months ago

It reminds me of an old joke:

Dude regains consciousness, looks around and found himself in the riding car. Driver is a huge muscled guy with red skin, horns, hooves and a tail.
"What happened, where am i, are you a devil?"
"Yes, i am a devil. You died and are going to hell"
Guy looks through window
"How ugly everything is, grey, drab, ruins everywhere, jarring noises, ragged human wretches shambling around for no purpose, thick smog everywhere... hell is indeed horrible"
"Hell? What hell?" devil was surprised "We're not out of London yet"

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 49 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Stop giving Scotland absolution. Scotland wasn’t another dominated colony, Scotland was a somewhat equal and willing participant in England’s sins. Scotland should be given some level of independence under the oversight of Ireland

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People forget Scotland became part of the UK because they tried to do colonialism and were really bad at it.

[–] FearsomeJoeandmac@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Scotland became part of the UK because a bunch of aristocrats wanted the same power england had. The average peasant scot had no say really in the matter.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)

When someone says a country took an action, they mean the government or the powerful. When you say America commits war crimes it isn't implying that every US citizen has personally done a war crime

[–] AmericaHaterSexHaver@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Every american is a war criminal

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So, these are war criminals?

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago (5 children)

The homeless population is over represented by veterans so probably

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[–] FearsomeJoeandmac@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So pointing out the average Scottish peasant had no say in matters of government isn't worth pointing out

[–] FearsomeJoeandmac@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

I mean it is when people bitch at scots for disliking and England and wanting independence, and then do the soy wojack face and say "but scotland participated in the empire too You have no right to complain".

Which people often do. Like it's some hidden knowledge that the upper classes of lowland scotland were balls deep in the british empire.

Again, if we're going by that logic wales shouldn't bitch either.

I don't know, I'm done with this thread though and you either agree with me or don't.

( Not you specifically my friend, just people reading this thread in general)

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[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Scottish Mandate, with a Highland self governance zone as a test case with right to return for the descendants of the highland enclosures

[–] FearsomeJoeandmac@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This would include wales than too. The welsh and Cornish participated in the empire. Not as much as the scots, but they did.

I'm just saying by your logic using participation in the empire as a metric.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wales was conquered, Scotland’s king took over as king of England too. Those feel like pretty different scenarios.

[–] FearsomeJoeandmac@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Still participated in the empire and the spread of british imperialism.

They entered the empire in different ways yes, and you'd think wales being conquered would make them absolutely against participating in the empire in any form, but they did participate , and sometimes enthusiastically so.

Wales and Cornwall do not get a pass.

If we are going to try and exclude scotland the same needs to be brought up about wales.

Don't know much about Ireland besides the plantations.

[–] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

But this post isn't about historical activity, it's about the present. Where Scotland is a significantly less evil force than England specifically.

[–] Lester_Peterson@hexbear.net 47 points 3 months ago (1 children)

no term limits

no constitution, through Parliament the ruling regime can overrule the judiciary at will and ignore human rights treaties

antidemocratic electoral system where a party winning 1/3rd of the vote gets 2/3rds of seats

state media spewing hatred towards refugees and trans people, inciting violent riots

Chairman Xi, my people yearn for freedom

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Putting aside that bourgeois democracies are not democracies, term limits are the weirdest thing. If the people want someone to be leader, they should be leader. They get easily cast aside when somebody who really wants the reins of power gets it, so it's not an impediment to that. The only thing it does is stem radical change from taking charge for too long. It's a conservative concept.

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay, term limits for libs

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Term limits were invented by ancient Greeks and Romans for the purpose of reducing infighting for the offices among the members of ruling class. Note how bourgeois historians are presenting ancient Athens in V century BCE as the classic example of democracy, while even if we ignore how classist that democracy was, it was explicitly a period when one person (Pericles) basically ruled as informal dictator and turned Delian League into actual empire.

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I say we sink England the same way we did Atlantis.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

We gotta nuke something

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 36 points 3 months ago

I hear they have WMDs. Starmer must go.

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

England can go back to those 5 kingdom thingys, Wessex, Middlesex, Anglia, and so on. Then they can fight over who counts as the most English

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago

Sus sex 😳

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[–] pooh@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How about Ireland, Wales, Cornwall, Scotland, Isle of Man, and whoever else forming a new Celtic Union?

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Brittany. The Bretons straight up exist because they escaped the angloid invasions. Also some great music

The domesticated dogs will become wild again

[–] FearsomeJoeandmac@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

It was actually more likely picts and scoti they were fleeing from and those are most likely the "barbarians" described in groans of the Britain's.

The anglos were invited over by briton ruling class to push the picts and scoti out.

And soon became the ruling class themselves.

Even the english have majority native British blood, because the germanic warriors intermarried with local women. It's why the english are sometimes referred to as 'germanized celts'.

Honestly the dark ages is my favorite era or history so I'm obsessed with this stuff.

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[–] D61@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

Its time for China to Annex West Taiwan (formerly England).

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Do you really want your children growing up in a world where England doesn't exist? I thought so pronounjak

[–] crime@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

Sink TERF Island

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The problem with Brexit is it didn’t go far enough

[–] crime@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bremolition Brerby? Bruclear Brannihilation?

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bremoved from Bremultiverse

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[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Dingus_Khan@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Bit idea: carve a small chunk off of southern Mercia and name it Nossex

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's the Liberated Chinese Island of the old Kingdom

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[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

Cornwall is a reactionary shithole too, tbf. Nice beaches and a somewhat interesting culture but I won't hand it to em.

[–] belligerentkitten@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

hard agree i am actually dreading the time i will one day have to visit that hellhole again. hopefully no time soon

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