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[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 87 points 10 months ago

If only Palestinians had a fifteen lane highway, they could have just all driven out of Gaza!

[-] nightshade@hexbear.net 89 points 10 months ago

"From the river to the sea: that's how wide our roads should be"

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 50 points 10 months ago

"From the river to the sea: that's how wide our roads should be"

kelly of the month! order-of-lenin

[-] Cummunism@hexbear.net 58 points 10 months ago

Gaza, famous for making the choice to be a "15 minute city"

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 57 points 10 months ago

Lmao this is incredible. A pro-Palestine 15-minute city conspiracy theorist.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 61 points 10 months ago

He's not pro-Palestine, he's a deranged boomer convinced that "15 minute city" means walling off sections of cities into sections like they did in Deus Ex since they could only make the levels so big and explained it with conspiracies

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago

Should tell him the Chinese are gonna come in with laser katanas and make us all take vaccines for the Gray Death

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago

laser katanas

It was a jian made up of a non-eutactic solid tyvm

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

He's afraid of being able to walk to a store, he's not gonna know the difference

[-] context@hexbear.net 47 points 10 months ago

the only way to prevent fascism is to make sure it's a 20 minute drive to the nearest strip mall wendy's

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago

The obvious solution is to make Wendy’s illegal

[-] context@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

theory-gary now we're honing in on the core contradiction. anti-wendy's action is the path to liberation.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago

Blaming the genocide of Palestine on sidewalks

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 10 months ago

how dare people want better livablity

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago

These 15 minute nutcases are protesting all over the city near my town, and I'm not even British. This absurd right wing delusion is spreading outside of Britain agony-turbo

[-] Kestrel@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's just a reboot of an older conspiracy theory (Agenda 21). Every decade or so a new flavor of "what the fuck is urban planning oh my god they're commies trying to shove us into boxes" evolves and takes off.

[-] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

Usually followed by "gated suburban communities in bumfuck nowhere are totally different though, trust me."

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago

I had to talk down a hippie that I work with about this. It's so fucking weird that people think the government is just openly proposing putting the entire population in camps for no reason, but yknow, real actual existing oppression is totally ignored.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

Well sure but the hypothetical oppression would affect them! And all those people currently experiencing actual existing oppression deserve it, actually.

[-] GriffithDidNothingWrong@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

As an urban theorist and historian how do you think this would be less difficult than bombing a suburb?

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

Suburbs are more spread out so obviously the chances of my house hit are getting lower.

Sure, I can't go anywhere once they destroy the only road connecting us to civilisation, but at least my property might be safe

[-] pillow@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago

I've heard that american suburbs took off in the 50s in part because of cold war fears of nuclear attack. (mostly white) middle class people with the means to move out tried to get away from bomb targets, and the government funded highways as a way to evacuate cities in an emergency and to encourage sprawl for "civil defense"

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/713999949

[-] Omniraptor@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

How much of an effect did it have compared to regular old capital flight (aka white flight)? That seems like a much more compelling reason to me

[-] GriffithDidNothingWrong@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

They also wanted to live as far away from black people as possible. I don't think it would protect you much against the kind of saturation bombing they're using on Gaza

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/11/13/if-gaza-was-in-your-city-how-much-would-be-destroyed

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[-] Egon@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Urban theorist" is an even more useless title than urban planner lmao. At least urban planners want to do good, they're just ignored until they rubber-stamp pre-planmed prestige projects by the government.
There's fuck-all to theorize, what's good has been known for ages. The issue is not knowing what's good, but implementing it

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

At least urban planners want to do good

Highly debatable and more of a case by case basis. You get a lot of them coming at it from an "engineering" standpoint and fully carbrained

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

I suppose, though in my personal experience it's more a question of having your soul crushed and giving up at some point. Most planners I've interacted with want to - or at least started out with wanting to - do good. It's just incredibly difficult to do anything other than MORE ROAD or BIG EXPENSIVE OFFICE.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

Oh I don't even mean the broken down people, not judging by the official position or what they actually do even, I get the constraints.

But even discounting those the field is still littered with fully car brained people entirely on board with whatever next planning crime is currently being done

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

urban theorist

Oh, like the completely unqualified douchebag a century ago that fucked the United States city planning ever afterward by prescribing carbrain shit for everything?

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 months ago

The only context of urban i can think of in this case is the pope who called for crusade.

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

All shitty modern urban design goes back to Moses

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

The loss of Jericho was felt by all mankind.

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

Funny, but in case you’re not doing a bit: wrong Moses

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

Perhaps we could box this nerd into a box with 15 minutes of air...

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

The only way to escape getting killed by fascists is by embracing carbrain and conjuring up a few extra Earths to accommodate worldwide carbrain.

grillman solidarity my-hero

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

The solution is to crash Nibiru into Earth to make it bigger.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

These people glomming onto the concept of 15-minute cities as the new great reset is amazing

[-] LiveLoveStalin@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

Imagine if services I used were nearby and convenient. What a terrible world that would be.

[-] glans@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

Think about how many of the "anti pedo" and "anti sex trafficking", "satanic panic" leaders that come out of this cess pool end up being vile predators themselves.

So maybe.... if we leave these ones to their own devices it will turn out they are all covertly involved in totally sane interventions. Like they are out there at night doing DIY speedbumps and properly filling potholes thinking nobody will ever find out.

[-] Teapot@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

Let him cook

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

In a sort of "life imitating art" thing I feel like we're getting more "life imitatin AI" thing in that the only relation these two have is having something to do with the concept of city, but it gets hard-linked in these peoples brain that is usually reserved for computers

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago

He's right you know. Look how hostile Gaza is to people just trying to get places in their vehicle:

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

does he think the thing that caused the Israel Palestine conflict was bike lanes

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If they can't buy 5 ton pickup trucks and drive them 40 minutes to the nearest Walmart then they're not free frothingfash

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

The fact that someone would use this genocide to further an agenda against cities with better transportation and less cars is astoundingly evil. Anyone doing this absolutely deserves to be shot.

[-] roux@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

It's actually fucking insane. This disconnect from reality is baffling.

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[-] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

"Making me walk is literally oppression."

And we're the "SJWs"?

"postcolonialism" is when you settle and colonize Palestine

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

Right wing conspiracy brained people can fold anything into their current obsession. Anything can be turned into an arguement for how 15 minute cities are a plot to trap and kill them because reasons.

Its like watching Alex Jones baxk in the day integrating every news story into the Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory

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