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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 85 points 2 months ago

Keys have existed for over 4000 years.

Stop trying to reinvent shit that isn't broken.

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[-] niph@hexbear.net 73 points 2 months ago

This is the dumbest thing. I had to rescue a Tesla owner a couple of weeks ago, she was stuck in our lobby because her phone battery died and she couldn’t open her car so I went back to get her a charger

[-] Rascabin@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 months ago

Can't believe that dumbass walks around without the credit card sized key.

[-] niph@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

Yeah I couldn’t believe how insane it was. Her charger was, of course, inside the car…. picard

At least she was nice and brought me cookies the next time I saw her :3

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

Still love the car!

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 67 points 2 months ago

Imagine being stranded because your phone died lol

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

Imagine being stranded because the cellular network signal is too weak

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[-] dudes_eating_beans@hexbear.net 61 points 2 months ago

Physical keys, physical buttons, physical currency

I will never budge on any of this

[-] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Physical media storage, too. Fuck the cloud.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

Pushing play on the touchscreen 50 times bc it won't register

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

touchscreens while driving? they have played us for absolute fools

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[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 53 points 2 months ago

Return to physical keys and mandate that they cost 20$

You ever lost a key and had to buy a new one? It's like 150$ for no reason!

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

Go to a key copier and make one as a backup I’ve never paid more than like $20 for a key literally ever.

[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

Modern cars have keyless entry and push start so you can't simply make a backup key at a locksmith. They can duplicate the emergency key that serves as a backup for the door but it won't start the car because you need the code programmed in.

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[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

buys multi ton metal heap

yeah sure the key fob is wasteful

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 2 months ago

If something needs an app to operate I don't buy it ever. Simple as. Stop trying to shove your malware addled garbage onto me.

[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago

Yeah my phone is certainly never dead when I'm away from my home. These people are clowns.

[-] red_stapler@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago

Having the fob in my pocket and just getting in the car and turning it on is way more convenient than getting out my phone, waiting for Face ID to fail twice, and then entering my passcode.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 42 points 2 months ago

i drive a car with a key. like the kind you insert into the ignition and turn. i was giving somebody from work a ride the other day, and they were like, "wow, i haven't seen one of those in a while!"

i know i'll probably have to do the FOB thing eventually (because the future is when every simple mechanism requires a battery), but i would refuse anything that needed my phone. yes, let's make the cell phone, the device that has 10-20X'd in price in 15 years and become the near-universal tether to work, identity, and payment become the single point of failure that renders one completely fucked if broken, stolen, lost, or drained.

people who bazinga over shit like this are people who confuse being dependent on a technology with understanding a technology.

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago

Boomer question, but how do you drop your car off for an oil change or whatever without a key?

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago

at the certified and approved service desk with the dealership, where you can pay top dollar for parts and labor and you have no recourse to their diagnostics.

or, as those of us olds with now-classic cars refer to it as, the stealership. remember: you didn't buy a vehicle. you bought the ability to drive it sometimes and the right to funnel more money to the manufacturer/broker when it fucks up.

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[-] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago

Here's the valet key, a second phone

[-] Edie@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

As someone with a Tesla. There are "keys" they are just cards, think rfid cards for those who know, if you don't just think credit card size.

[-] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

I can't be the only person who doesn't have a constant, uninterrupted cell signal and constant access to a wall outlet. The idea that everything for everyone can always be done on a cell phone always seems like unexamined, tech utopianism.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago

"Your OS is not compatible with this application, update your phone's OS"

clicks system update in Settings

"Your phone is no longer supported and cannot upgrade to the current version of this operating system."

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago

Keyfobs have physical buttons that provide tactile feedback that a phone can never offer

That in and of itself makes the keyfob superior

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

To be fair, nothing in a Tesla has physical feedback. It's all touchscreens and fly by wire

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[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

I was hanging out with my friend and he said he couldn't check his phone but the reason why is embarrassing.

Turns out his battery was low and he couldn't start his Tesla without it lol

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

Hello sir did you remember to pay your $200 per year ignition access fee

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[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

Mfw my bike lock has a physical key sicko-biker ~___~

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"Your phone is the best car key" and other statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

Carbrain really does this to a mf

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[-] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

This world fucking sucks

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

Don’t these people piss themselves over crime and hobos? What happens if you lose your phone or get robbed? You’d have no choice but gasp ride the bus like a poor

[-] Spike@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

Keyless entry was the worst idea

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[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

Yet another thing to hack. Combined with automated driving, we could do very funny things with this...

To that end, these key fobs that you just leave in your purse eat up coin cell batteries like crazy.

[-] chungusamonugs@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

The battery in a key fob I have has to be replaced every 2 years. It's not like the old remotes where it only transmits when you press the button. Because of the stupid push button start, it HAS to transmit all of the time and kill your battery on a schedule. This isn't some luxury car either, it's a base model mazda.

Car companies don't get enough hate for taking away the glorious key barrel. It's even more convenient, because it gives you a place to put your key while you're driving. I hate having it in my pocket and since there's no ignition now, I have to put it somewhere in the car instead of sticking it in a place I don't use.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

Denmark is moving to a system where all tail cards are exclusively on the phone. I hate it. Yeah let's make it so kids can't travel alone, let's make it difficult for the elderly, let's make it so you have to carry a GPS device, lets make it so you have to carry a charged phone, let's fine you if you run out of juice.

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[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

the biggest waste in this scenario is the tesla itself

[-] BGDelirium@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

YESSSSS

More inconveniences for car drivers. Bike gang 4 life

sicko-biker mario-thumbs-up

spongebob-party

[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

better idea: how about we kill elon musk instead?

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

And don't even get me fucking started on proximity locking. Absolute nightmare.

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