chapotraphouse
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"Believing in anything but the nebulous status quo with a sense of superiority is for losers."
Scary how pervasive thinking like this actually is.
"Descibe the ideology of South Park in 1 sentence"
"My family had to flee from Eastern Europe 20 years ago, so believe me when I say that I know how bad Communism is"
lol one time I had a college classmate give a speech about his family escaping communism. He seemed Latino so by his age I thought maybe he meant his family was from Nicaragua, but it turns out he was Brazilian and immigrated to the US in 2004
They just barely escaped the lulags
I denounce Hamas for not having a patreon account.
I was watching Hasan’s stream yesterday. He was talking about how people have accused him of funneling money to Hamas through his donation drive (even though the charities involved are all well known normal ones). Everyone in the chat was all “if the money went to Hamas I’d give more!!”
No, I denounce Israel for creating Hamas
This is the take I'm going to use, just to watch them process and then seeth and froth at the mouth
I don't denounce a god-damn thing
Israel says that the Palestinians are "human animals;" that's exactly backwards. Animals are what they want. Docile cattle who will allow themselves to be penned up, half-starved, whipped, branded, and culled by ol' Farmer Zion.
Standing up, breaking the fence, and fighting back is exactly what proves the Palestinians are still human, despite Israel's best efforts to the contrary.
I denounce them for waiting so long to mount a proper resistance and not taking more hostages.
A little bit to my surprise, ol' Norman Finkelstein, in his media appearances since this latest development in the occupation, has refused to condemn Hamas. In his interview with Chris Hedges yesterday, he explained this decision with reference to slave revolts in the US, John Brown, and the Haitian revolution. I think it's a sound comparison.
Yes yes I bring up the slave revolts whenever I get asked this. Feels like a perfect comparison to me. Most libs will admit that they think slaves freeing themselves was justification for violence, and they did kill innocent people in more than one uprising.
The most common response I hear is that "this is different, Hamas is getting funding from the real bad guys who just want to attack Jews." During many of the slave revolts, there are records of voices claiming "this isn't an honest rebellion, they are the unwitting stooges of the French/Spanish who just want to attack Brits!"
During many of the slave revolts, there are records of voices claiming "this isn't an honest rebellion, they are the unwitting stooges of the French/Spanish who just want to attack Brits!"
in the American War of Independence, the British offered freedom to slaves who fought against colonists. Many joined up with the "Ethiopian" regiment of the redcoats for that reason. So the lesson here is even if they are working for a foreign power... So fucking what?!?! Don't enslave them and maybe that wouldn't be their only option! Where else are they gonna get guns and training?
Yes, I denounce Hamas for not fighting hard enough. Death to America, there was no WMD in Iraq, Great Satan cope and seethe
Look, if Jeremy Corbyn can still piss off literally every single rightist on the planet by refusing to dignify this question with an answer, so the fuck can you.
jezza got done so dirty
Yup that was the point I got to "I'm going to enjoy watching this dying ember of an empire fizzle out"
Britain deserves everything that's happening to it.
America deserves all the same things to happen to it but we didn't vote in a referendum for literally "we should be able to do whatever we want and also everybody else should also have to do whatever we want" without at least having a military budget that's 20x what it should be.
I denounce Hamas for not being similar enough to the PFLP and I denounce the PFLP for not being as strong as Hamas.
“No and I don’t denounce the IRA either”
It’s all pretty much the same argument about the IRA, religious ideological differences with Hamas aside. Yes of course I support the IRA. Innocent people losing their lives is a tragedy, absolutely. And 100% of the blame falls on the UK colonizers, not the IRA though.
Why wouldn't I just say, "No, they're cool and good."
That is also an acceptable option
I denounce HAMAS for always picking Mr. Game and Watch, he's a bullshit cheap-ass character whose side-B is broken
skill issue
I always just ask if they denounce Isreal
The denounce tactic is similar to red baiting where you accuse a center left politician of being a communist in order to cause them to attack communists and anyone left of liberalism. It's best to only respond by just calling it a stupid question and immediately moving on rather than taking the bait.
I denounce Hamas for not making it all the way to the River.
"Israels government helped them rise to power, so apparently it's what they wanted."
I denounce their failure to eliminate Genocide Joe
"Not nearly as much as I denounce the actions of Isreal and the United States."
in the pretty shitty Andrew Whatsisname video where he goes to a palestine rally in america somewhere, he lets organizers and other people talk and they're all good but then of course he has to bothsides it by letting some israeli rapper dudebro speak as well.
said dudebro turns to the organizer and asks "do you denounce hamas tho" and she's like "not the right question to ask right now" and he's not having it. then he goes on to ask the camera "what if your cute sister was at a music festival..."
so an otherwise OK segment where people get to voice actual shit gets overshadowed by dudebro essentially drowning them out with fart noises. and half the comments predictably are "oh she didn't engage with him in the marketplace of ideas, the left can't comprehend this nuanced and complex issue"
What if my sister decided to gloat about a genocide by partying next to the world's largest concentration camp? I would probably cut contact with her.
I would be like the yes chad, but instead of saying yes I'm saying no.
"no"
I denounce hamas for not learning anything from the Ukrainians and failing to open up an online social media marketplace where I can buy commemorative scrap metal ripped off Merkava tanks
"What did mushed garbanzo beans ever do to you?"