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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Journal of Controversial Ideas

This sounds like the name of a publication that posts articles promoting race science and Holocaust denial

You asked me whether it is my view

Yes, it absolutely is his view. Nobody who didn't think that would answer the question in such a way. He's saying yes, but he's too much of a coward to come right out and say it.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

(Cw: transphobia [big surprise])

Let's have a look at the first issue!
Are women 'adult human females'
Is it ever appropriate to wear blackface?
"Defending the defense of 'dumb ideas' on campus"

Why would anyone with a finite lifespan waste their time on reading this dreck, much less writing it?

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, turns out I wasn't too far off.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Automatically assuming a public figure complaining about having 'controversial' opinions is using it as a smokescreen for bigotry has a remarkably high success rate.

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[–] moujikman@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

I'm now convinced he wrote the article.

[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, he supports animals becoming wives, but does he support wives becoming animals? thonk

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

These anti-zoophilia liberals are trying to CANCEL this HERO

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do not like the final paragraph. I don't like most of this, but that final paragraph was written with one hand, and that is what I do not like about it.

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[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i looked up the journal and...

Black Pete, King Balthasar, and the New Orleans Zulus: Can Black Make-Up Traditions Ever Be Justified?

In this article, I challenge the widely held view that black make-up traditions are categorically wrong.

Why Shouldn’t Race Be a Costume?―A (Qualified) Defense of Wearing Cross-Racial Make-Up During Halloween

This article challenges the view that wearing cross-racial make-up on such occasions as part of personal costumes—as opposed to costumes that are integral to specific cultural traditions, such as the New Orleans Zulu parade—is always wrong.

Philosophical Reflections on “the Filthiest, Dirtiest, Nastiest Word in the English Language”1

When, if ever, is it morally permissible to utter the word “joker”? (NB: The word “joker” is a placeholder for another word, the mere utterance of which certain people find unsettling or offensive. See the prolegomenon of this article for an explanation.)

marx-joker

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Journal of Controversial Opinions is just bigotry?

shocked-pikachu

[–] AlkaliMarxist@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Print version of r/unpopularopinion

[–] mittens@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh fuck that's the board I was thinking about, it wasn't askreddit lmao

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[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

While the general rule of thumb is that you should never take professional philosophers very seriously, as their income always is derivative entirely from their closeness to powerful patrons (with exceptions like Socrates who was supposedly a stone mason when not being annoying in public, see the existential comics bit about professional philosophers being less serious about their craft than professional bodybuilders), Peter Singer is someone who you should absolutely not take seriously because all of his work is deeply tied into both the Gates Foundation and Clinton Foundation.

Especially if you actually (unlike most people who skim the cliff's notes, hear it second-hand or just read the title) read his works, particularly his seminal piece in famines, you will realize that all that he ever argues for is utilitarianism, but he has no real qualms around how that maximum utility is achieved (though heaven forbid you mention the achievements of communism), with his personal belief in maximum utility being achieved not by actual wealth redistribution (though he spends the majority of his paper talking about it), but instead (as he slips in right at the end) population control.

That's right. The liberal academic darling of why it is good to give away your money specifically believes that that money shouldn't be re-distributed or that maybe the real value is being exploited, no it's that in order for less poor people to starve, there needs to be less poor people. Liberal academics everyone! Spending 25 pages to only say one sentence!

[–] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Peter Singer is someone who you should absolutely not take seriously because all of his work is deeply tied into both the Gates Foundation and Clinton Foundation.

Truly his nonsense about efficient utilitarianism was made in a Bill Gates lab. I dont even need a direct connection to Gates to believe it because it is tailor made for philanthropic colonialism, developmentalism, white saviorism, and rejecting any kind of orientation toward, or responsibility for, your own immediate community (if you live in the global north).

[–] Fluid@aussie.zone 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just because you’re articulate doesn’t mean you’re right, it just makes you a sophist.

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

with exceptions like Socrates who was supposedly a stone mason when not being annoying in public

I think that the story here was that he came from a family of sculptors (see Euthyphro) but that by the time he took up being a gadfly, he was an ascetic who relied on savings and alms. He is usually called a stonemason because we usually think of sculptors, especially Greek sculptors, as working with stone, but this is in large part because the wood sculptures didn't survive.

On the other hand I might be mistaken. Apparently his father helped to build the Parthenon (which is indeed stone). Now I'm trying to figure out where I got the idea of Socrates working with wood. Maybe I'm inverting the "Jesus was a carpenter" (he was actually a stonemason) thing in my head, but I think I read it in the footnotes of a Euthyphro translation or something.

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[–] professionalduster@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

am I missing something or did he not actually answer the question or give his opinion on the question

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He absolutely did, but he did it in a specific way so that when people call him out in the future, he can say he technically never did say he supported it!

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Intentionally talking in circles seems to be what a lot of philosophy is actually for.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Jordan Peterson gambit

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Virgin utilitarian: writes tl;dr papers on why fucking animals is okay aktually

Chad virtue ethicist: "Would Jesus/Socrates/Confucius/Buddha/Aurelius fuck animals? No? Then I shouldn't fuck animals."

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

nah im not touching this with a ten foot pole

[–] Crowtee_Robot@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Yup those are the only two choices.

[–] ksynwa_from_lemmygrad@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Now imagine you are an animal that is taken good care of but also the owner does not bang you...

The most normal utilitarian

[–] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m just thinking about how easily he could’ve said he doesn’t think animals should be abused whether the abuse is sexual or not, instead of writing a paragraph of soft core zoophilia erotica.

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[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't pretend like a dog never made you horny. smuglord

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is by far the most unsettling usage of that emoji I have ever seen. Thanks please fuck off lol.

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[–] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bit Idea: A t-shirt that says "I fucking love animals" with a strategically placed transposition proofing mark.

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[–] mittens@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

journal of controversial ideas? no thanks i already can go browse r/askreddit

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You are missing the last line:

Which animal would you rather be?

Which is furthermore underlined in the screenshots he posts, strengthening the implication.

[–] AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd much rather be slaughtered than fucked by Peter Singer, thank you very much.

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Me protecting the dogs in my home from Peter Singer like

malcolm-checks

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

You can take the creep out of Epstein's island, but you can't take Epstein's island out of the creep. epsteingelion

[–] rubpoll@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well that was upsetting to read.

Anyhoo, I've been vegan for 8 days and counting, and not once have I wanted to fuck an animal. trans-vegan

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[–] anticlockwise@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Deranged Hexbear trolls do not miss.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

this man is a wall candidate now for sure

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People should have stopped taking anything this guy says seriously decades ago. Peter Singer was always a quack/charlatan. From his definition of specieisism, to being a misanthrope, his disregard of ethics, I don't know why anyone would take him seriously.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Lmao this is some v*ush-tier shit

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