chapotraphouse

She did mention the "working class" once in her convention speech. Checkmate, tankies!

In the Bay — in the Bay — you either live in the hills or the flatlands. We lived in the flats. A beautiful, working-class neighborhood of firefighters, nurses and construction workers. All who tended their lawns with pride.

The defining characteristic of the working class - we tend our lawns with pride. You know, those lawns we have. In front of the houses we own.

Funny part is that the term "middle class" originated from feudal times to describe people who were neither aristocrats/landed gentry (aka upper class) nor peasantry/proles (aka lower class). So basically, the bourgeoise and highly educated bureaucracy.

It doesn't matter what she said or what she put on her website; she never tried to create a coherent vision of who she was.

Kamala: I believe climate change is an existential threat and am also completely pro fracking.
The Libs: See, she said climate change is an existential threat.

Kamala: We should have a ceasefire and my support for Israel is unconditional.
The Libs: See, she called for a ceasefire.

Not that this is a particularly new phenomenon among politicians. Heck, it worked fantastically for Trump despite the fact that his speech is essentially gasses escaping from the fermenting porridge that is his brain. The question folks should be asking is why it didn't work for her. Her lack of charisma? The fact that dems seem constitutionally incapable of not sounding condescending? The fact that no one reads candidate websites any more and the campaign's messaging was mostly "Wow the Cheneys like us now 😍"?

Middle class

Yeah, that's gonna be a no. I do not perceive myself as a yeoman property owner proto-Nazi.

It's funny how after a dem bloodbath - libs suddenly rediscover the term working class. I bet they use it for ~4 more months and then they'll drop it again because being middle class is a feeling.

The Democrats didn't ignore the working class. Not even the white working class. Not even the white male straight cisgender working class. There were actual policies, unlike Trump, that would have benefited them significantly.

The media ecosystem made sure that they didn't hear about them.

https://subium.com/profile/tlecaque.bsky.social/post/3lamnivcja22n

I'm guessing the entire first section is just:

Lower Food Costs

Food costs are already low enough!

Lower Healthcare Costs

Health care costs are already low enough!

etc.

From my experience talking to my lib but left-sympathetic friends, it seems like people misidentify the middle class with the working class because they literally "work".

I think they see the "lower class" as critically poor, jobless, homeless people and so on.

What no theory does to a motherfucker, and so on.

Hobbes is so fucking annoying because he just needs to be right all the time. Doesn't matter the actual content of things.

If anything Kamala's "plans" as messaging, literally make no sense in the grand scheme of things.

Remember 2 years ago in 2022 when people were complaining about the price of gas and every Democrat was like "OH YOU DON'T GET IT, THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T CONTROL THE GAS PRICES YOU UTTER MORON!!!".

Kamala's plans literally are like, "the President is going to make groceries cheaper." Which one is it guys? Do you control prices or do you not? Of course the response is going to be technocratic mumbojumbo that's half lying anyway. Because the truth of it is that whatever they can take credit for they will even if they didn't explicitly have anything to do with it. They can't actually do anything because that makes their donor class nervous.

There is no middle class anymore. Would the Dems stop this "forward" crap? Courting Dick Cheney is moving the party so backwards they became the Republicans from 25 years ago.

The working class needs help more than the middle class. We don't need to have people be poor. Poverty should be eliminated.

Even if the middle class was a real thing, why no one questions what's offered to the implied lower class?

I know that words hardly mean anything in the US and gibberish is to be expected but I have to admit this sort of shit still annoys me.

wreak havoc on the middle class

teaching illiterate people how to write was a mistake actually

I don't care about the middle class. They're just the working class in waiting

The middle class is part of the working class ("upper middle" is arguable, but many are still workers not owners afaik, just high paying jobs). Obviously not all of it, but depending on the definition it's the same amount or more people than the lower class.

That of course doesn't change the fact that 1) they're basically saying they don't care about the lower class and 2) the contents of that plan are definitely some neoliberal bullshit that barely if at all helps most of the middle class. And of course the distinction between lower and middle class purposefully exists to stifle consideration of the reality that it's actually a working class vs an owning class.

She only says middle class unless she's condemning people in poverty for not being middle class. It was so annoying

They are going to learn their lesson and start lying during campaigns again. They will run a clinton type "progressive" democrat who will say the words that liberals can shout at us. Then if they get into office they will do what they always have.

No wonder she ate shit. Focusing your entire platform on an increasingly small minority of petit bourgeois hitlerites is not a great strategy

I don’t care about what anyone says about anything anymore. Means almost nothing to me.

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